Written on March 1st, 2007 at 08:03 am by Darren Rowse
34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog
Thanks to everyone who has added their thoughts on why they unsubscribe from a blog’s RSS feed. There have been 109 comments left on that post so far and some interesting recurring themes have emerged.
I’ve attempted to categorize them below. Obviously with 103 opinions (and most people giving multiple reasons all in their own words) I’ve had to make some judgement calls in classifying comments left. Some of the categories below have overlap but I think you’ll get a pretty good picture of what motivates people to unsubscribe from RSS feeds.
34 Reasons Why People Unsubscribe from RSS feeds:
- Too many posts (the post levels are too overwhelming) - 37
- Infrequent Posting (or the blog is effectively dead) - 29
- Partial Excerpts Feeds - 25
- Blog Changes Focus (too much off topic posting) - 23
- Too many posts that I see elsewhere (Redundant, Repeated or Recycled News) - 19
- Uninteresting Content - 16
- Irrelevant Content - 13
- The Blogger’s Ego - Too much self promotion - 11
- Low Quality Content - 11
- Too many posts that are too long - 10
- Negative blogging - 7
- Feed Errors - Especially when a Feed Reloads the latest 10-20 posts every time - 7
- Offensive Content/Personal attacks/Discrimination - 6
- ‘infomercials’ (too much selling) - 6
- Blog Titles that Don’t Tell what the post is about - 5
- No or Poor Formatting in posts - 5
- My own interests as a reader change - 5
- No Longer Useful or Valuable - 4
- Too many links in the text and not enough content - 4
- Advertising - 3
- Inconsistent writing (style and focus) - 2
- Too Many Grammatical Errors - 2
- Found other feeds that are better - 2
- Too Narrow a focus - 1
- Too much repetition in topic - 1
- Pushiness of Blogger - 1
- Blogger Doesn’t Respond to Comments - 1
- No Images in the feed - 1
- Lack of Confidence or Opinion - 1
- Lack of a sense of who the blogger is - 1
- Too much clutter/extras at the end of posts - 1
- Talking Down to Readers - 1
- Too many quotes - 1
- Change of Primary blogger - 1
A few brief comments (I wouldn’t want to have a long post now….):
The Frequency of Posting is obviously a big factor with 35% of respondents saying that too many posts was reason for unsubscribing and 28% saying that infrequent posts was reason to delete a feed from their reader. Interestingly, the ‘infrequent posting’ vote was perhaps a little less than last time I asked a group of bloggers this question. I suspect that with advancements in Feed Readers that inactive feeds don’t bother as many people as they did previously (ie Google Reader has a mode where you simply don’t see a feed unless it’s updated).
The Partial Feeds Vote got off to a slow start but gained momentum as the comment thread grew. 24% of respondents said they unsubscribe from feeds that are partial or just title feeds.
Off Topic Posting and blogs changing direction/focus is an obvious annoyance to many (this one surprised me slightly) with 22% of people giving it as a reason.
Content - I found it interesting that the quality, relevance and nature of content came down the list. Things like the form and frequency of the feed dominated the discussion while the actual content itself came in as secondary importance. Perhaps this was skewed slightly by the way I asked the question and by the first responses (I suspect that some people were swayed by the issues that others already raised).
246 Responses to “34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog”
Funky Gadget Guy
March 1st, 2007 9:32 am
Number one is really interesting
Anthony
March 1st, 2007 9:35 am
I can understand the top two, however, finding that sweet spot can be tough. I’ve unsubscribed because of too many posts to keep up with, but I never have because of infrequent posting. The third one doesn’t bother me, as part of the reason I subscribe is to know when the site is updated. Generally, I still visit the actual site. If I’m not interested in going to the site to finish reading, the site probably isn’t that great anyway.
Alex
March 1st, 2007 9:41 am
Seem like the ‘golden middle’ rule applies here. It’s a thin line between short and long posts. Do you know where’s the middle Darren?
Phil Newton
March 1st, 2007 9:42 am
It seems odd at first that too many posts can turn off readers, after all, “content is king”. However, I find I’m much more likely to unsubscribe from a blog with too many posts than one with too few.
I think there are two reasons: 1) Reading blogs can take a lot of time, and you almost feel obliged to read every single article posted and 2) Posting quality can suffer if it’s too often.
Marti
March 1st, 2007 9:42 am
Kind of tough to find that happy medium of not too many,not too few posts, huh? LOL
Still recovering from death and illness here. I have a day home so I am trying to say hello to my Internet friends! Hope all is well with you and you have a wonderful day!
eches
March 1st, 2007 9:44 am
dont be on both extremes (”too much” and “infrequent” posts).
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Allen.H
March 1st, 2007 10:16 am
I never expected too many posts to even be on the list, not to talk about being #1..
I guess it’s about the tool you’re using, according to the latest statistics more and more people are using Google Reader, which in a first view shows you all the new posts from your subscribed sites, I guess that if 2 blogs have posted 4 times a day, it gets a bit overwhelming and messy for the reader.
I use Firefox Live Bookmarks so I’m not really affected by this.
Another good reason to relax and post less, but with value.
Allen.H
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March 1st, 2007 10:19 am
How about 35 - after careful review you noticed that the author is an idiot. Like a real, true-to-life idiot. I’ve subscribed to blogs and after a while I’d think “hmm, this guy really is off his rocker”.
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Margarida
March 1st, 2007 10:33 am
I liked a lot this list, and I think in my case the first one might matter a lot lol lots of posts can be very troublesome.
Great job in here, very useful articles. Thank you
Collis
March 1st, 2007 10:49 am
Who would have thought that too many posts was a problem. I suppose that is too many low quality posts in particular… The fastest blog i subscribe to is techcrunch which seems to put out 4-10 posts a day, i quite enjoy knowing there is always something new to read… keeps me distracted from my real work :-)
Steven Bradley
March 1st, 2007 11:01 am
Thanks for compiling the list Darren. I read through all the comments yesterday and got the general sense of people’s likes and dislikes, but the list here makes it so much easier to understand what turns off readers.
I’d like to see a ‘why readers subscribe to a feed’ post since I think that will prove just as valuable.
A couple of thoughts about a list like this. One is to note that while some people will unsubscribe if you publish too often. others will unsubscribe if you don’t publish often enough. Based on the comments from yesterday I think it would be easy enough to find a happy medium, but my point is that you can’t please everyone and if you try you may end up with a blog that offends no one, but also pleases no one.
I also think that a quality blog can overcome most all of the complaints. If we were to take a look at a variety of A-list bloggers I’d guess many do some of the things on the list yet still have a large audience. For example Aaron Wall only publishes partial feeds, but the blog is so good that many people will happily click through to the site to read it. I know I will.
The most important thing for any blog will always be the quality of the blog itself.
Thanks again for the list.
raising4boys.com
March 1st, 2007 11:17 am
Very interesting compilation. Of course, the #1 issue (posting too often) is a clear advantage when it comes to building deep archives, so you have to take the bad with the good, I guess.
hongkiat
March 1st, 2007 11:42 am
Nice Darren, I’ll graphically chart them and credit it back to ure site :)
Bob
March 1st, 2007 11:50 am
Well I have to say I didn’t expect too many posts to be the number one reason! It does make sense if you think about it, but I just would have expected something like uninteresting content, or low quality content to have been up there.
I guess now it’s just a case of finding out what your optimum number of posts per day/week is…..
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Mitch
March 1st, 2007 1:22 pm
I had always thought that too many posts - just like not enough posts might kill a blog. Got to find a good balance between quality and quantity.
Saman
March 1st, 2007 1:42 pm
Wow, what an interesting list!!
I too, am wondering where that “Golden Middle” is for posting! I have at least one post per day - sometimes two, and rarely three….
To few? Any more would seem like too much!
Richard
March 1st, 2007 1:42 pm
I am surprised that more people didn’t say bad grammar or low quality posts.
Timmy Twotoes
March 1st, 2007 1:49 pm
#35: Lists that are longer than 10 items.
Please unsubscribe me.
Alan
March 1st, 2007 2:01 pm
Number one really surprised me since many of the big blogs have a ton of posts every day. But I can see how it can frustrate people, there are a few big blogs that I check out only a few times a week and hate the fact that there may be 3 or 4 pages of posts that I need to go through if I want to see everything that was posted since I last visited. I usually leave after the first page or two though…
Blog Bloke
March 1st, 2007 2:21 pm
Generally speaking I won’t unsubscribe unless it is obvious that the blog has died. But we should remember that most bloggers go through a lull period where things like writer’s block, burnout, bad health or the real world can get in the way of our blogging. I believe in cutting people some slack and giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Some folks probably start pruning their list simply because it is getting too large or unwieldy. I subscribe to literally thousands of blogs and if you use a filter like I do that is built into most good newsreaders (like GreatNews for example), then it’s really not necessary to prune the list so often. After all, subscribing to a feed costs nothing and we have everything to gain.
Martin
March 1st, 2007 2:39 pm
I’m still thinking about the first one. One of my favorite blogs is Lifehacker and they post several times a day. With the main writer Gina posting several times herself. Wired magazine even mentioned the fact that she did this.
I also subscribe to the Huffington Post which is always full in my Bloglines inbox. I certainly wont delete Huffington Post, but I wont READ everything they write either.
I unsubscribe only when the writer is has lost their edge or is changing the point of their blog.
But too many posts? I don’t get that one.
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Edward
March 1st, 2007 3:26 pm
Too many posts on the top of the list ?! i thought people likes authors to update their blog regularly ?
Robert Scoble
March 1st, 2007 4:00 pm
I don’t believe any of these reasons. I do all 34 things and I have more than 100,000 subscribers, according to Wordpress.
Oh, and I’ve had several CEOs tell me they love my link blog and I posted 98 things to that so far today (and 1,800 in the past month).
Translation: do what you love, put stuff up you’d love to read, and the rest will fall into place.
Oh, and I’ve learned over and over again that people who say they are unsubscribing never do. It’s just a threat to try to make you feel bad.
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Thilak
March 1st, 2007 4:33 pm
I never knew that too many posts per day would kill my readership. I always used to consider that more posts = more readers. Maybe you should ask your readers “What is the optimum number of posts per day”
Eric Rice
March 1st, 2007 5:11 pm
Is your readership mostly people-who-blog, as opposed to people-who-only-read-blogs?
Since this is an RSS-focused thing, I’m curious about what reasons more general users (read: don’t know/don’t use RSS) would give for not reading a blog.
We blogger-types tend to be have sometimes unrealistic and higher than normal standards when it comes to what we want. (Full vs. Partial feeds is a religious issue with us, and that’s kinda amusing and sad. It’s like serious throwdown time when that conversation starts. Doesn’t that strike anyone as odd, regardless of position on this issue?)
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Kloudiia
March 1st, 2007 6:10 pm
Wow, I was blown off by Point #1 too. And to think it tops the list! Another surprise.
This makes me wonder if it could be the setting of the feed. If it has been set to notiffy the subscribers of every new post, then it could get a little threatening to get 2 or 3 emails from a blogger per day.
I used to think too that more posts = more readers like Thilak.
Or maybe now is more interesting and quality posts = more readers? So if you keep posting things that don’t interest or benefit readers they’ll choose to walk away.
Looks like bloggers have bigger shoes to fill now ;)
SELaplana
March 1st, 2007 7:04 pm
I was actually planning to make 50 posts a day by recruiting paid bloggers for my blog. But it seems it will only brought negative effect to my feed subs as it’s on the point 1…. :-(
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The Other Mac
March 1st, 2007 7:39 pm
Don’t forget this is reasons for unsubscribing, not reasons for choosing-not-to-subscribe-in-the-first-place.
The difference? If I wander onto a new blog and see outstandingly interesting content, I’ll subscribe. It has to be outstandingly interesting, cos I come across several new blogs every day but if my feed is going to stay manageable, I can’t subscribe to more than one new one every few weeks. (And prune unwanted ones every few months).
If the content isn’t extremely interesting, I won’t subscribe in the first place. So you won’t see me leave. That’s why content-related reasons are relatively low on the list.
Here’s something that’s happened to me a few times: I subscribe to a techie blog, but find that many of the posts are entirely personal. (I just unsubscribed to a Drupal blog cos of unending photos of the blogger’s new baby!) What can the blogger do about this, apart from keeping two separate blogs? 1. Use categories properly, and 2. Offer two distinct feeds. Don’t offer a combined feed as well; it just causes confusion.
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Yoav
March 1st, 2007 7:48 pm
Hi Darren,
Great post.
A sequel - “why people do and don’t comment on blogs” might also be interesting.
Blog Bloke
March 1st, 2007 7:58 pm
A better question might be “What Motivates you to Subscribe to a Blog’s Newsfeed?“
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Daniel Scocco
March 1st, 2007 8:22 pm
I think there is still a lot of room for discussion regarding the first reason, that is too many posts.
Despite people mentioning it is there empirical evidence out there that too many posts will reduce your audience? Obviously “too many” is relative for each blog and its topic, still.
Samsara
March 1st, 2007 9:56 pm
How very valuable to make that list! Hopefully the people who offered their comments [mine included] can absorb their own advice when it comes to blogging.
I think the breakin’-it-down-Barney-style rule of thumb for any Blogger [Article writer] would be to ask the question, “If I wasn’t me, would I stick around for this?”
Thanks for your value.
Samsara
Darren Rowse
March 1st, 2007 10:52 pm
Robert - I partly agree with you. Compelling content will keep people subscribed despite most of the problems that you could have - although as someone who has unsubscribed to blogs from time to time I’d say that some of the above (for me tis more about the content relevancy and quality as well as blogger ego) that gets me deleting a feed.
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Antonio Howell
March 2nd, 2007 12:07 am
I was surprised that intrusive ads or distracting ads was not much higher in the survey.
I am getting to the point where if I see an adsense ad on a site I immediately question the quality or veracity of the content.
Your site by the way is an exception to the rule. I appreciate the vast and expert information you freely offer your readers.
Thanks,
Antonio
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March 2nd, 2007 1:17 am
Why are too many posts a problem?
Everyone has their own reasons, but in my case its limited online time (2-4 times per week in evenings). I work in IT and after staring at computers all day, often the last thing I feel like doing when I get home is sitting in front of another computer! Even after just 3 days absence the number of unread posts can pile up, and its tempting to just “mark all as read” so I can get on to the e-mail, which would have also piled up.
If you’re online for private purposes every day, or can read blogs at work, then excess posts are easier to keep on top of. I suspect this is not the case for most.
deb schultz
March 2nd, 2007 1:30 am
Darren - as usual a great job. I would add that sometimes people unsubscribe because the subscribers interests have changed..;)
Cheers,
D
p.s.your blog is the one I send people to the most, when they ask me how to really really understand blogging
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Jesper
March 2nd, 2007 1:35 am
Really interesting as usual. This one made me chucke: “The Blogger’s Ego - Too much self promotion - 11 “. I guess this must ring painfully true in some peoples ears. ;)
I must say Darren, that you provide so much valuable insight to the blogging world - I really really appreciate reading your blog.
It also spawned an idea of mine which I will unabashedly promote here. I decided to make a small survey, building on your idea of the Ad Sense earning surveys. Feel free to check it out, and if you give it a small push it might acutally produce some interesting results.
Anyway keep up your outstanding and inspirational work!
b5Chad
March 2nd, 2007 1:37 am
Great post Darren. Extremely interesting. I personally don’t like posts that are too long to read. Too many posts, not enough hours in the day to read them. :)
Sabri SaifulSham
March 2nd, 2007 1:47 am
Hoo…
It’s suprising to know that too much posting is a turn off to reader. Looks like I have to tone down my frequency… duh…
Ari
March 2nd, 2007 2:05 am
I’m interested in hearing from people what constitutes a long post. Also, when is it ok for posts to be long? What if the blogger only posts 2 or three times a week or once a week if its a really long post? For me, this is my biggest concern.
ilker
March 2nd, 2007 2:11 am
Number one is so true. I have subscribed to feed that now have 100+ posts in Google reader and I don’t know when will I have the time to read them all. Maybe I will unsubscribe rather than reading them. Bloggers should post less in any given day naturally leading to higher quality of posts.
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March 2nd, 2007 4:41 am
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March 2nd, 2007 4:53 am
It might appear from the list that content is not emphasized, but I think the frequently posting problem is only a problem because the frequent posts are not interesting or just a link to something else. I don’t see how you can post 4 or more times a day and actually have good content and/or not regurgitating the same news. The only ones on the list that aren’t content related are partial feeds/feed errors.
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March 2nd, 2007 4:54 am
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rjlight
March 2nd, 2007 4:56 am
THANKS for reformatting all the info Darren
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#1 reason is “too much posting”??
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Marco Raaphorst - componist en geluidsontwerper » Blog Archive » Gewoon doen! Met passie!
March 2nd, 2007 8:09 am
[…] Robert Scoble, niet de eerste de beste, laat een reactie achter op een bericht van Darren Rowse die weer eens een theorie verzint op basis van iets wat voor hem werkt (lees: heel veel geld oplevert). ‘34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog’. En Robert zegt daarop: I don’t believe any of these reasons. I do all 34 things and I have more than 100,000 subscribers, according to Wordpress. […]
Marco Raaphorst
March 2nd, 2007 8:15 am
A with most theories: the opposite theory also seem to work fine. ‘Do the never’ like Seth Godin says… although: that’s another theory :)
Fuzzy Thoughts » Blog Archive » Why Readers Unsubscribe from RSS Feeds
March 2nd, 2007 8:28 am
[…] I logged into the wordpress admin panel, and saw a link that caught my eye. Eventually I made my way to ProBlogger, where he compiled a list of 34 reasons someone might unsubscribe from an RSS feed. Some of the items on that list got me thinking. […]
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March 2nd, 2007 8:31 am
[…] Darren Rowse where is lists 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe From Your Blog. […]
Mike
March 2nd, 2007 8:49 am
Iora - Too many posts. I’ve had it myself where you feel inundated with posts from a particular site that you start to think it’s time to unsubscribe. However there’s a reason why you subscribed in the first place so unless any of the other elements aren’t in play, too many posts should not be the sole reason to unsubscribe.
Britgirl
March 2nd, 2007 8:50 am
From “post everyday” in most “how to blog” posts to “too many posts makes readers unsubscribe from your feed?” That’s a big leap and ends up being rather confusing, if not even misleading. I can almost see people already worrying if they post too much - or too little, and changing what they currently do, based simply on this survey.
The questions, especially #1 and it’s opposite #2 should really have been qualified. How many is “too many?” How many is “too few?” I would have found it more useful if the question was qualified by asking something like “how many posts do you consider to be too many/too few? 1-3 posts/week/? 4-6, 6-8, more than 10 a week, less than 5/week” etc.
As it is, the questions and their answers are almost meaningless, because what constitutes “too much” or “too little” is relative. It also depends very much on the subject matter of the blog. A tech blog that posted infrequently would be left in the dust in no time. I concur with Robert.
Besides, if presented with many posts to read don’t people simply select those they wish to read and leave the rest??
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March 2nd, 2007 9:09 am
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March 2nd, 2007 9:12 am
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March 2nd, 2007 9:23 am
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March 2nd, 2007 9:24 am
[…] By the way, Darren Rowes’s article on “34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog” listed infrequent posting as the number 2 reason why people unsubscribe blogs. I better increase the frequency at this blog. […]
popxpop
March 2nd, 2007 9:55 am
読者がRSSフィードの購読をやめる34の理由…
昨今はRSSリーダーも普及し、ブログを読むためには欠かせないツールになっていま……
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March 2nd, 2007 10:19 am
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March 2nd, 2007 11:00 am
[…] 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog Interesting because I’ve thought about this a lot (for example, what is the threshold for the number of days you will wait to keep a subscription until the author finally posts an update?) […]
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March 2nd, 2007 11:04 am
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March 2nd, 2007 11:51 am
[…] • Problogger just released a survey of reasons why people unsubscribe to feeds. Just about 25% of respondents said that it’s because of partial feeds. Right behind too many posts and not enough of them. […]
Trent
March 2nd, 2007 12:01 pm
“I don’t see how you can post 4 or more times a day and actually have good content and/or not regurgitating the same news.”
There are great blogs out there that post worthwhile, original content at this rate. That’s because they spend their time blogging, not self-promoting. That’s also why you’re probably not familiar with them.
Teli Adlam
March 2nd, 2007 12:07 pm
Adding to what Trent has said, some blogs actually have multiple authors producing unique and great content throughout the day which could easily push post counts up to 4+ per day (Example: Boing Boing).
Tar
March 2nd, 2007 12:21 pm
I’m not sure I understand the issue of the blog reposting the last 10-20 posts. This is something that’s out of our contol, no?
Totally different reaction to ‘infomercials’ (too much selling) — When will a standard emerge to help distinguish the commercial / selling oriented feeds from non-commercial? With how strong RSS seems to have taken hold, it seems we will need some standards around usage type.
Maria Palma
March 2nd, 2007 12:24 pm
Yes, like some other people, I’m a little surprised that people would leave because of too many posts. I post several times a day on a couple of my blogs and my subscriber list still continues to grow.
I also subscribe to a few blogs that post frequently and although it can be overwhelming at times, I simply scan the headlines until I find something that interests me.
Well, different strokes for different folks!
Seth Chadwick
March 2nd, 2007 1:10 pm
I guess I am one of the few that doesn’t care how many people subscribe to my feed. Honestly, I have never checked and probably never will. Blog feeds to people are like straw in the wind.
I write a food blog about my experiences in restaurants in the Phoenix metro area. I love finding great restaurants and putting out the information about my “find” to anyone who wishes to read it. If they do, great! If they don’t, then that is great, too.
My blog isn’t a hostage situation, however, and if I were to wring my hands or lose sleep every time someone unsubscribed from my feed, I would probably be a fingerless insomniac.
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March 2nd, 2007 1:13 pm
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John
March 2nd, 2007 2:37 pm
Cool list, thanks. I see you’ve also joined the Cool Kid’s Club (a.k.a StumbleUpon). There is hope for you, sir. -j
I hope a post a day isn’t too frequent « Derek Kivi
March 2nd, 2007 2:55 pm
[…] I hope a post a day isn’t too frequent This article by Darren Rowse suggests 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe From Your Blog. First on the list is too many posts. I am currently subscribed to about 100 blogs and I have unsubscribed to blogs based on several of these, including too many posts (#1), infrequent posting (#2), and partial feeds (#3). I personally don’t like partial feeds the most–that would have been my number one answer. […]
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March 2nd, 2007 3:07 pm
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March 2nd, 2007 3:55 pm
[…] “Why do people stop reading you? Because you post too much!”…and 33 other reasons why people unsubscribe to your blog. [via Amanda Congdon] Mark Cuban is freaking out about Youtube again…and again…and again. Why is he still angry? He seems to have more issues with Youtube than he does NBA officials. Valleywag weights in, too. Robert Scoble says Joost is rude. […]
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March 2nd, 2007 4:48 pm
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Maki
March 2nd, 2007 4:52 pm
My rule of thumb: If you’re gonna post several posts in one day, make them short, tasty and targeted. Focus on one topic and come up with something that adds value. Seth Godin does this extremely well: Short sound bite posts with great insight.
Ultimately, I share Scoble’s point of view. It’s just too much of a hassle to try to shape yourself to meet all your reader expectations. You need to focus on keeping it real while writing about things you are passionate about.
Say someone avoids all 34 reasons. It’s still not an absolute guarantee that someone won’t unsubscribe from your blog.
We need to be less paranoid and uptight about readers deleting your blog feed.
People evolve and move on. No biggie, really.
WeblogToolsCollection DE » Blog Archive » Wieso Leser ihr RSS-Abo löschen
March 2nd, 2007 6:07 pm
[…] 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog: Darren hatte die Frage gestellt, Wieso löschen Leser ihr RSS-Abo vom eigenen Blog? Die Antworten kamen durch die Kommentare, die er dann aufbereitet hat. Viele Antworten waren klar, aber die beiden Hauptgründe sind zu viele, bzw. zu wenige Beiträge. Die Antwort könnte also sein, gerade so viele Beiträge zu schreiben, um die Leser zum Wiederkommen zu bewegen, sie aber gleichzeitig nicht zu erschlagen. Ein Beweis dieser These sind die täglichen Updates von Plugins und Themes auf weblogtoolscollection.com, die am besten in einem Beitrag pro Tag zusammengefasst werden. Andere Faktoren sind Beiträge mit Inhalten nicht relevant für das Blog, nur Auszüge im Feed, und natürlich guter Inhalt. Ich mag Scoble’s Kommentar zu diesem Beitrag. Es wurde schon einiges gesagt zu “do what you love, put stuff up you’d love to read and the rest will fall into place” (Mach was du willst, bring Sachen, die du auch gerne lesen würdest, der Rest wird schon funktionieren) (No Ratings Yet) Loading … […]
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March 2nd, 2007 6:10 pm
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www.best-practice-business.de/blog » 34 Gründe, einen Blog-Feed zu kündigen
March 2nd, 2007 6:57 pm
[…] Passend zum gerade veröffentlichten Business Blog Traffiq Ranking auf diesem Blog habe ich ein Posting vom Problogger in den USA gefunden, der seine Leser nach den häufigsten Gründen befragt hat, warum sie ein Blog-Feed nicht mehr abonnieren. Die Basis waren 109 Kommentare innerhalb des Postings des Probloggers, in dem er seine Leser um Feedback gebeten hat. Mehrfachnennungen waren möglich. […]
ProBlogger reasearch on “Why Readers Unsubscribe…” » Expired Convictions
March 2nd, 2007 7:07 pm
[…] His results are intriguing; there are more reasons than you may think for readership loss! I certainly learned quite a few things that I’m sure would go far in terms of ‘pleasing your audience’ . If that’s what you’re there to do in the first place, that is […]
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March 2nd, 2007 8:20 pm
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March 2nd, 2007 8:52 pm
[…] Оригинал на англ. языке. На 1 месте — слишком много статей (информации, постов). Хорошего должно быть мало. Но уже на 2 месте — слишком мало постов, блог умирает или вот-вот умрет. 4 место — блог изменил направленность, много информации не по теме, оффтопик. 5 место — болезнь многих русскоязычных блогеров — “баян”, или это я уже где-то видел. Нет индивидуальности контента (наполнения) …. 8 место — эго блогера, много саморекламы 10 место — дилнные статьи. […]
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March 2nd, 2007 8:59 pm
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March 2nd, 2007 9:07 pm
[…] HERE’S something that captured my attention: 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog. A quick look at the list indicates two things: content and form. Good content lands you eyeballs. But form makes content easier to read. My personal blog has gone through transformation. But I eventually decided to stick to its current form and style. It’s milky-white and it’s very minimalist. I took this form from an advice of J. Angelo Racoma who also believes in KISS. […]
Dobschats Weblog
March 2nd, 2007 10:18 pm
Wann Feeds fliegen…
Beim ProBlogger gab es eine Diskussion aus der 34 Gründe gesammelt wurden einen Feed aus dem Newsreader zu schmeissen. Auf Platz 1: Zu viele Posts. Hä? Beruhigt mich ja irgendwie, dass ich nicht alleine bin mit meiner Verwunderung über d…
Wayne Smallman
March 2nd, 2007 11:34 pm
“Blogger Doesn’t Respond to Comments”
Massive turn off for me.
When it’s a popular ‘blog like this, it’s not so bad because you know the guy is busy with stuff.
But when the smaller guys like me don’t bother replying, or worse still, just remove your comment, then I’m out of there…
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March 3rd, 2007 12:13 am
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March 3rd, 2007 1:02 am
[…] 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog The Frequency of Posting is obviously a big factor with 35% of respondents saying that too many posts was reason for unsubscribing and 28% saying that infrequent posts was reason to delete a feed from their reader. […]
What Makes A Good Blog? - Tyler Reed
March 3rd, 2007 1:03 am
[…] Darren Rowse has done a survey on why readers unsubscribe from your blog. This got me curious about what makes a good blog. I did a search on Google for “what makes a good blog“. The first result that came up is a post almost over a year old, what makes a good blog by JA Konrath. This got me thinking about doing a bit of comparing between the present and a year ago. […]
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March 3rd, 2007 1:22 am
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March 3rd, 2007 1:25 am
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March 3rd, 2007 3:31 am
[…] The ProBlogger blog just did a survey of their readers to see what reasons people had for unsubscribing from blogs, which you can see here. Note that the third highest reason is incomplete or partial feeds. If you are a web cartoonist who is not offering your comics in your feeds, you are really shooting yourself in the foot… if you aren’t making it easy for your users to view the content in the way they want to view it, they more than likely will not bother to see your content at all. […]
rjlight
March 3rd, 2007 3:43 am
I think we need to realize that blogging isn’t what it was when most of YOU started. The competition is much more fierce now and to just dismiss this list because you already have thousands (or millions) of subscribers is a bit dangerous especially when one of the reasons people unsubscribe is because of the ego of the blogger…
meneame.net
March 3rd, 2007 4:08 am
34 razones por las que los lectores pueden borrar su subscripción de tu blog…
Artículo de Darren Rowse donde da algunas razones por las que los lectores podrían borrar su subscripción a tu blog. Para un blogger experto no creo que le digan nada nuevo, pero yo creo que muchos deberían tomar nota, porque incluso blogs con mile…
Matt McAlister » Testing ways to splice my feeds
March 3rd, 2007 4:14 am
[…] I apologize if my feed here gets squirrely on you as I work this out. Coincidentally, I saw this post yesterday that pointed out the number 1 reason people unsubscribe from a particular feed is information overload. I’m definitely becoming an overload offender here. Sorry. […]
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March 3rd, 2007 4:48 am
[…] 2. 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe: A great quote in this one that says that bloggers must “do what you love, put stuff up you’d love to read, and the rest will fall into place.” Couldn’t agree more — “write what you know.” […]
Chris Leckness is a Geek - » Damned if you do and damned if you don’t
March 3rd, 2007 6:58 am
[…] I really don’t fret this much here on my personal blog, but Robert Scoble linked a post at Problogger why readers end up unsubscribing to your blog feed. I clipped the top 12, but the top 2 are what prompted my post on it. If you care to keep your readers, It appears from this research that you have to find the middle ground of post quantity. Post too much, they run… Post too little, they run… This seems like a no win situation. 34 Reasons Why People Unsubscribe from RSS feeds: […]
Brian Honan
March 3rd, 2007 7:48 am
As mentioned in our previous post I took part in a podcast yesterday with the other finalists in the Best Business Blog category for the Irish Blog Awards 2007 (www.awards.ie). The podcast is now available for download from our website. We are planning to make this a regular series of podcasting articles and welcome any ideas or suggestions regarding topics that you would like us to cover. Let us know via the comments field what you think about the podcast or if you have any feedback on business blogging from your own experiences.
Remember to check out the other excellent business blogs;
Allagi Blog
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Also you should look at the following “34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubcribe From Your Blog” on tips on what not to do.
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March 3rd, 2007 7:55 am
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Daniel Staemmler » Blog Archiv » Why Readers Unsubscribe from your Blog
March 3rd, 2007 7:55 am
[…] This is a quick post about an entry I stumbled up on at problogger that refers to 34 resons why readers unsubscribe from your blog. Number one on the list are too many posts followed by infrequent postings. Make sure to check out the comments on this posting if you visit this posting. […]
vanlandw
March 3rd, 2007 7:56 am
Very interesting topic. I recently unsubscribed to tvsquad.com’s feed because they kept putting 24 spoilers in their news stories. Three times this year I was burned by them so I posted a comment and told them I was leaving. I know it won’t make a difference (customer service on mainstream blogs means nothing IMHO) but I just wanted to post again about that.
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March 3rd, 2007 8:13 am
[…] Productive Strategies also offers a full RSS feed which is very good. According to problogger partial RSS feeds are the number 3 reason for readers to unsubscribe from your blog. […]
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March 3rd, 2007 8:52 am
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March 3rd, 2007 10:49 am
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March 3rd, 2007 11:46 am
[…] I did a little writing of my own about blogging this week when I asked if there was an optimal post length for blogs, which includes a discussion of the 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog. I certainly wasn’t alone writing about blogging. […]
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March 3rd, 2007 2:32 pm
[…] Problogger wrote a series on Why Guest Blogger Are Great For A Blog, How To Find A Guest Blogger For Your Blog, How To Get Guest Blogging Job, and How To Be A Good Guest Blogger. He also showed you 34 reasons why readers unsubscribe to a blog. […]
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March 3rd, 2007 3:59 pm
[…] 34 Reasons Why Readers Unsubscribe from Your Blog A list of reasons readers bail on your blog’s feed. (tags: blogging rss blog Blogs tips HOWTO unsubscribe) […]
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March 3rd, 2007 6:24 pm
[…] According to a recent posting on Problogger here are the main reasons why people unsubscribe from RSS feeds (see below). […]
365questions.org » Blog Archive » What makes a good Blogger?
March 3rd, 2007 7:36 pm
[…] I was wrong. As Darrew Rowse points out recently, too many posts are the number one reason people unsubscribe from your blog. […]
Home Business Blogging with Dane Morgan
March 4th, 2007 2:54 am
[…] Darren Rowse at problogger posed the question, “Why do you unsubscribe from blog feeds”. He got a lot of responses as is usual, and grouped them all into “34 Reasons Why People Unsubscribe From Your blog“. […]
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March 4th, 2007 4:08 am
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Wendy Piersall :: eMom
March 4th, 2007 5:52 am
Interesting of note is your own post on post frequency noting that “There is a strong correlation between the aging and post frequency of blogs and their authority and Technorati ranking.” Specifically, that the highest ranking blogs also have a higher frequency of posts.
Ironically, I increased my posting frequency because of that article you wrote!! But my subscriber numbers have also increased. I never post more than 2-3 times a day, and never more than one long post in a day.
Now I’m curious as to what really is at work here!
Deb/Jersey Girl
March 4th, 2007 6:36 am
This was an interesting read! I wouldn’t have guessed some, and others